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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-16-2019, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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I have two questions:
Is this the correct p/n for the 2018 Rogue Sport Air Filter - Nissan (16546-4BC2A)? What I was given by my local Nissan dealer was a Value Advantage part. It fits and is physically the correct looking piece but I now find that Value Advantage is the Nissan budget line. P/N of this one is AF54M-4BA1J-NW. I'll run with it but will get the actual factory replacement before 12 months is up.


My other question.....do these vehicles have a cabin air filter? I can't see any ref to this item in the owners manual.


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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-18-2019, 05:51 PM
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I posted this question and it's on the forum. There is and it's really easy to change out if you know what to look for. It's just in front of the panel that I INCORRECTLY stated needs to be removed. (That's the way I did it the first time because I didn't know where the cabin air filter housing was.) AGAIN, the panel doesn't need to be removed. New cabin air filter went in @ 8K and it was dirty, though no where as dirty as the air filter.)
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I posted this question and it's on the forum. There is and it's really easy to change out if you know what to look for. It's just in front of the panel that I INCORRECTLY stated needs to be removed. (That's the way I did it the first time because I didn't know where the cabin air filter housing was.) AGAIN, the panel doesn't need to be removed. New cabin air filter went in @ 8K and it was dirty, though no where as dirty as the air filter.)
Thanks Sparky, let me take a look on our 2018. It's very odd that there is no ref to this that I can see in the owners manual, but I do see cabin air filters listed for the 2018 on various sites. I'll follow up and see what is going on.


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Yep, sure enough there is a cabin air filter. Absolutely no mention of it in the owners manual that I can see. I have one on order via Amazon...I think it is 28USD incl. tax, shipping is free.

That is bad that a service part is not mentioned anywhere in the manual.


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I ordered both the engine and cabin filter from Amazon for about $11 each. I went to two different auto parts stores - neither had the part in stock, one told me they could order both and it would take a week, and the price was outrageous! The ones I got from Amazon came in next day (Prime) and looked quite a bit like the ones I pulled out (only a lot cleaner!) Both had more pleats than the OEM versions, which means better filtration and are made in China to Nissan specs.



Now, I have to question some of the engineering decisions made by the designers over at Nissan/Renault.



Why would you mount the air filter box for the fricken engine BEHIND the engine? It was almost like they were saying, "Hey! Let's see how difficult we can make it for the owner to change the air filter! And, while we're at it. let's do the same for the cabin filter - and then not tell anyone where it is or that it even exists!"



And why put that massive plastic monstrosity leading air into the engine air filter over the fricken battery? It's not like the battery NEVER goes bad, right? Good for the life of the car, right? Never needs to be charged, right? Never needs to be checked and corrosion (if present) removed, right? Right!



And, finally, why make the whole thing out of brittle plastic? The latch that holds the two sections together broke when I was trying to reassemble it after replacing the air filter. Now it's held together by a self tapping metal screw. Well, you do what you have to to get it to work, but, really - you're not exactly cramped for space in the engine compartment, are you? There are several other ways to mount that box so it was out of the way and you had a clear shot at getting things done without your belt buckle scratching the fricken pain on the fender 'cause you had to lean so far in to unlatch the clips on the filter box!


GAHHHH!

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You're absolutely correct. They could have done a more simple design. But....they want you to take to the dealer for service and additional service "recommendations"! You do know there is a CVT filter as well as the strainer in the pan? I highly recommend you do a pan drop and clean the magnets and pan along w/fresh NS-3 fluid. I'll be doing this around 20K on our RS.
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You're absolutely correct. They could have done a more simple design. But....they want you to take to the dealer for service and additional service "recommendations"! You do know there is a CVT filter as well as the strainer in the pan? I highly recommend you do a pan drop and clean the magnets and pan along w/fresh NS-3 fluid. I'll be doing this around 20K on our RS.



Oh, happy day! I can just see those hard earned $$$'s flowing from my slim wallet to the local Nissan dealer. I have yet to do more than simple stuff to this car - a bulb change here, a tinkering there, filters for air, etc. I haven't climbed under the car yet but saw the massive skid plate that seems to cover everything from the very front to the firewall. I really hope that is easy to remove 'cause I'm not about to attempt to change the oil filter from the top of the engine!


I have a trusted local mechanic who does most of the work on my cars. He and his employees are really good and he will not make a recommendation for repairs unless it's warranted. I had planned on having the usual stuff done by him (oil/filter, etc.) and the warranty work done at the dealer. I might have to rethink some of this as I'm not too sure he wants to get into tranny work. But, thanks for the tip and the suggestion!

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The undercarriage shield is a pain. Could have made the fasteners easier to remove. (AND there's a lot of them!) The fluids are the life-blood of the engine/transmission. If you want to hold on to the car till the wheels fall off, do these fluid changes in a timely manner. I personally over do things. Also, not buying the oil recommendation from Nissan. (0w-20) This engine's oil recommendation around the world is NOT 0w-20. Only in US because of CAFE. This engine runs better w/thicker viscosity oil.
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What weight do you recommend? I thought all the synthetic oils were much thinner then conventional oils.

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post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-07-2020, 10:03 PM
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Joe,

2017 Rogue Sport. Not a lot of room to work, but I didn't have too much trouble changing the oil filter from up top, with a cap.
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