[iceflow]

Folks,
I have two questions:
Is this the correct p/n for the 2018 Rogue Sport Air Filter - Nissan (16546-4BC2A)? What I was given by my local Nissan dealer was a Value Advantage part. It fits and is physically the correct looking piece but I now find that Value Advantage is the Nissan budget line. P/N of this one is AF54M-4BA1J-NW. I'll run with it but will get the actual factory replacement before 12 months is up.


My other question.....do these vehicles have a cabin air filter? I can't see any ref to this item in the owners manual.


Thanks!

 

[Sparky]

I posted this question and it's on the forum. There is and it's really easy to change out if you know what to look for. It's just in front of the panel that I INCORRECTLY stated needs to be removed. (That's the way I did it the first time because I didn't know where the cabin air filter housing was.) AGAIN, the panel doesn't need to be removed. New cabin air filter went in @ 8K and it was dirty, though no where as dirty as the air filter.)

 

[iceflow]

I posted this question and it's on the forum. There is and it's really easy to change out if you know what to look for. It's just in front of the panel that I INCORRECTLY stated needs to be removed. (That's the way I did it the first time because I didn't know where the cabin air filter housing was.) AGAIN, the panel doesn't need to be removed. New cabin air filter went in @ 8K and it was dirty, though no where as dirty as the air filter.)

Thanks Sparky, let me take a look on our 2018. It's very odd that there is no ref to this that I can see in the owners manual, but I do see cabin air filters listed for the 2018 on various sites. I'll follow up and see what is going on.


Thanks!

 

[iceflow]

Yep, sure enough there is a cabin air filter. Absolutely no mention of it in the owners manual that I can see. I have one on order via Amazon...I think it is 28USD incl. tax, shipping is free.

That is bad that a service part is not mentioned anywhere in the manual.


Thanks!

 

[Joe Schweigert]

I ordered both the engine and cabin filter from Amazon for about $11 each. I went to two different auto parts stores - neither had the part in stock, one told me they could order both and it would take a week, and the price was outrageous! The ones I got from Amazon came in next day (Prime) and looked quite a bit like the ones I pulled out (only a lot cleaner!) Both had more pleats than the OEM versions, which means better filtration and are made in China to Nissan specs.



Now, I have to question some of the engineering decisions made by the designers over at Nissan/Renault.



Why would you mount the air filter box for the fricken engine BEHIND the engine? It was almost like they were saying, "Hey! Let's see how difficult we can make it for the owner to change the air filter! And, while we're at it. let's do the same for the cabin filter - and then not tell anyone where it is or that it even exists!" :frown2::surprise:



And why put that massive plastic monstrosity leading air into the engine air filter over the fricken battery? It's not like the battery NEVER goes bad, right? Good for the life of the car, right? Never needs to be charged, right? Never needs to be checked and corrosion (if present) removed, right? Right!



And, finally, why make the whole thing out of brittle plastic? The latch that holds the two sections together broke when I was trying to reassemble it after replacing the air filter. Now it's held together by a self tapping metal screw. Well, you do what you have to to get it to work, but, really - you're not exactly cramped for space in the engine compartment, are you? There are several other ways to mount that box so it was out of the way and you had a clear shot at getting things done without your belt buckle scratching the fricken pain on the fender 'cause you had to lean so far in to unlatch the clips on the filter box!


GAHHHH! :frown2::crying:

 

[Sparky]

You're absolutely correct. They could have done a more simple design. But....they want you to take to the dealer for service and additional service "recommendations"! You do know there is a CVT filter as well as the strainer in the pan? I highly recommend you do a pan drop and clean the magnets and pan along w/fresh NS-3 fluid. I'll be doing this around 20K on our RS.

 

[Joe Schweigert]

You're absolutely correct. They could have done a more simple design. But....they want you to take to the dealer for service and additional service "recommendations"! You do know there is a CVT filter as well as the strainer in the pan? I highly recommend you do a pan drop and clean the magnets and pan along w/fresh NS-3 fluid. I'll be doing this around 20K on our RS.

Oh, happy day! I can just see those hard earned $$$'s flowing from my slim wallet to the local Nissan dealer. I have yet to do more than simple stuff to this car - a bulb change here, a tinkering there, filters for air, etc. I haven't climbed under the car yet but saw the massive skid plate that seems to cover everything from the very front to the firewall. I really hope that is easy to remove 'cause I'm not about to attempt to change the oil filter from the top of the engine!


I have a trusted local mechanic who does most of the work on my cars. He and his employees are really good and he will not make a recommendation for repairs unless it's warranted. I had planned on having the usual stuff done by him (oil/filter, etc.) and the warranty work done at the dealer. I might have to rethink some of this as I'm not too sure he wants to get into tranny work. But, thanks for the tip and the suggestion!

 

[Sparky]

The undercarriage shield is a pain. Could have made the fasteners easier to remove. (AND there's a lot of them!) The fluids are the life-blood of the engine/transmission. If you want to hold on to the car till the wheels fall off, do these fluid changes in a timely manner. I personally over do things. Also, not buying the oil recommendation from Nissan. (0w-20) This engine's oil recommendation around the world is NOT 0w-20. Only in US because of CAFE. This engine runs better w/thicker viscosity oil.

 

[Joe Schweigert]

What weight do you recommend? I thought all the synthetic oils were much thinner then conventional oils.

 

[Tommymills]

Joe,

2017 Rogue Sport. Not a lot of room to work, but I didn't have too much trouble changing the oil filter from up top, with a cap.

 

[Tommymills]

The cabin air filter design on the 2017 Rogue Sport is just insane. I can agree that it may have been to encourage owners to pay the dealer to change it. But I have NEVER seen such a ridiculous design for a plain old cabin air filter. And even the dealer can't seem to get it right--they replaced it for me, but when I removed it much later to replace it again, the pleats were dirty right at the top and sparkling white everywhere else.

Is there some other way to replace it--maybe by disassembling part of the console below the dash?

 

[SportsNut76]

I've seen the comments on the cabin air filter, but I assure you there are worse to deal with. My wife's previous car was a 2017 Ford Focus and to change the cabin filter on that was even worse than on the Rogue Sport in my opinion.

 

[Sparky]

My first two OC's w/new filters were w/ENEOS 0w-20. Kinematic Viscousity 40 Degree C (cST) 44 and 100 degree C (cST) 8.3. The third OC I blended Eneos in a 1:1 ratio 0w-20/5w-30. Much smoother running engine w/less start-up valve noise. 4th OC was with a 1:1 blend of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w-20/5w-30. This is what I'm going to be using for the next 5-6 OC's w/a higher percentage of 5w-30 in the up coming spring/summer run. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for around $20 5qts 5w-30 @ Amazon/Walmart. 0w-20 will run around $28. (Right now there's a $22 to 400 Shell promotion thru the 2/23/2020.) So basically you're receiving the oil for free or very little $. This method is making a VERY light 5w-30 or higher 0/5w-20. One of the lightest 5w-30 is Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30. (53.9 and 8.8 KV.) Another light 5w-30 is Valvoline Modern Engine @ 9.8 and 55 KV (cST). (I bought a lot of this oil @ this yrs. Autozone clearance for $10 5qt jugs.) This is what I'm doing....IMO the engine runs much smoother and I believe it's better for engine longevity. Depending on your climate you may what to use 0w-20 in winter/5w-30 in summer. Do what you feel is best in your own interest.

 

[Sparky]

Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 is 53.9 and 9.8 KV.

 

[Joe Schweigert]

Thanks, Tommy - but I'll let Bill Carpenter do the heavy lifting! I don't really like to wrench a car anymore - I've had so many 'fun moments' with cars over the years (and so many fricken cars!) that the thoughts of doing more thn watching someone else do the work brings tears of frustration to my eyes. :wink2:

 

[Joe Schweigert]

Thanks, Sparky! Lots of details. I live up here in New England, USA and as I type this, we're at a moderate 35 degrees F. I bought this car from a dealer about 60 miles from our house. It had 20K on clock but has 25 months left on warranty. I don't want to do anything at this point to screw over the warranty status. I have lots of concerns with 0-20 oil - of any kind - in the summer months. If I put 5K on a car a year it's a lot, so for me, oil/filter changes are going to be yearly. Most of the driving we'll do in this car will be local (within 40 miles).



I'll probably stick with 0-20 for the next few years on the off chance there will be a problem where it will be handed over to the tender mercy of the local dealers mechanics. Since I'm on the other side of 75, the chances for me to do much more than watch others mess with the car are slim (at best).

 

[Sparky]

Hi Joe. Be sure to change out your air filter more frequently than what you've done for other cars on this Rogue Sport. (I was quite surprised how dirty it was in a short period of time.) When I used 0w-20 in the summer months (I do two OC's regardless of miles while the engine is still breaking in.), and I did not like how the engine ran when warming up w/this light oil. Not sure of what oil your dealer is using (if you take it there) for the oil changes, but if you take it to an independent shop you may want to bring in your own oil. I used Castrol Magnetic 5w-30 for the first time just recently in a Rav4 V6 and I was very impressed how smooth the engine was even comparing to Castrol Edge. The major brand oils today are so good. Give Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or Castrol Magnetic 0w-20 a try. I very much like the Ultra Platinum. Also, be sure to do a pan drop and change out the strainer and clean the pan/magnets. There's also a cartridge filter for this transmission. I'll be doing this when we reach 25-30k on the car. (We only drive 5K a yr. on this car.) Once the warranty is up, I'll be using a very light 5w-30 oil year round in this engine. Regards, Bill.