[Nissan Qashqai News]

Nissan’s Qashqai is up next to be scrutinized and accused of using defeat devices to fake emissions figures.

After the whole VW emissions scandal, South Korea started to investigate other diesel vehicles that are sold domestically. 20 vehicles were tested and while there were some emissions discrepancies, South Korea’s environment ministry singled out the Qashqai as the only model that used a defeat device. They believe the device used will turn off the Qashqai’s exhaust reduction system under regular driving temperatures.

Nissan has denied these claims in a statement to Motor Trend. “Nissan has not and does not employ illegal defeat or cheat devices in any of the cars that we make. Furthermore, following stringent testing and using similar standards to the Korean tests, EU authorities have concluded that Nissan vehicles they tested used no illegal defeat device.”

Until the situation is cleared up, Nissan will have to stop selling the Qashqai, recall the 814 models that were already sold and pay a 330 million won ($279,920) fine. The ministry also plans to file criminal charges against Takehiko Kikuchi, the head of Nissan Korea, with the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office.

VW seems to have started a snowball effect with dieselgate and it’s anyone’s guess as to which manufacturer is next on the chopping block.

 

[NissanDriver]

Rough times, just about every company has been doing this. Who knows how long investigations can take and when the results will come out but I have a feeling we'll see more companies dealing with the same thing.

 

[Specv]

The whole industry is going crazy. If it's not falsifying emission tests, it's lying about fuel economy figures.

 

[Dualis]

I don't expect the fuel economy figures to be the same as what the company reports in their tests since those tests can use a fully stripped car that weighs a bit less than a fully loaded qashqai. Stinks but that's to be expected but emissions is a different beast since you have to cheat to give inaccurate figures.

I expect to see a few more accusations in the future if for nothing more than the money that some governments can rake in.

 

[Specv]

Can they really use a fully stripped vehicle to run a fuel econ test ? But I can't disagree with you on that, the government is always looking for different ways to rake in more money, and accusations seems to be becoming the norm in this sector.

 

[NissanDriver]

The whole industry is going crazy. If it's not falsifying emission tests, it's lying about fuel economy figures.

That's why i like waiting for real world numbers since you see what people are really getting and what they're doing to get those numbers.

But often you have to run the vehicle in perfect conditions using the least amount of things on the vehicle. So that could mean, no radio, no AC, windows rolled up, etc.

 

[Specv]

That's why i like waiting for real world numbers since you see what people are really getting and what they're doing to get those numbers.

But often you have to run the vehicle in perfect conditions using the least amount of things on the vehicle. So that could mean, no radio, no AC, windows rolled up, etc.

Oh for sure. The conditions have to be completely ideal. Temperature, wind-speed, etc.

 

[NissanDriver]

Best thing is to look up how vehicles are tested and the specifics behind what factors in, it goes well beyond what the average person can imagine them doing.

 

[Specv]

Best thing is to look up how vehicles are tested and the specifics behind what factors in, it goes well beyond what the average person can imagine them doing.

It's definitely a heck of a lot of tests. Some people wouldn't even consider like the AK-47 Benz test :wink2:

 

[Dualis]

But that's for a specially armored car... Probably at some point, all manufacturers will be accused but we'll have to wait and see if findings can back up those accusations.

 

[Specv]

Definitely, it was meant to be humorous... But, that's also true. The recent news on Tesla with their suspension issues. Apparently 37 out of 40 cases were fraudulent.

 

[NissanDriver]

Even with the issues Tesla has had so far, I rather deal with them over the larger brands out here, Tesla is one of those brands that would go a bit more out of their way to serve a customer than the big brands we know. Countless times i've seen reports of people having to wait longer than they should for Nissan, Chrysler, Chevy, Toyota... to do something.

 

[Dualis]

Companies could improve their customer service. Lexus seems to be the title holder right now and that's something Nissan should aspire to.

Maybe the scandal scare and people loosing faith in them would drive Nissan to improve their customer service.

 

[Specv]

Hopefully it'll give them that push to seriously up their customer service. That's really the only way to win people back. You need to win the loyalty over anything at this point

 

[NissanDriver]

Too bad it will only matter so much, unless it's really impacting their bottom line and they know it, then there's a real problem to address. But for most well established brands, it's not that big of a problem, people will still buy for many reasons.

 

[VeeQ]

Look at happened with FCA. Everyone thought it was a huge deal, and they just came out not too long ago and in a nut shell said "Yeah, we're really not worried. We got this"

 

[NissanDriver]

The way you have to look at it is who are most of their buyers, who will find out about this information and when, how will they react, what impact it will have on the car maker, etc. At the end of it, there's little impact. Not many people follow automotive news and too many are comfortable with the brand they're with that they'll forget about the whole emissions thing.

 

[VeeQ]

Definitely. Majority of people really couldn`t care less about emissions to be real. How many people do you see that are legitimately concerned for the environment and the atmosphere. We don`t have millions of Al Gores walking around the place

 

[Dualis]

Looks like Nissan was found guilty by the Korean courts in regards to installing emission cheat devices in their cars including the Qashqai.

CarScoops

A South Korean court ruled against Nissan in an emissions case, finding the Japanese car maker guilty of using a ‘defeat device’ on Qashqai models equipped with the Renault-sourced 1.6-litre diesel engine.

Don't know who to believe, the court or Nissan.

 

[Specv]

It's tough to decide as we would never be able to find out for sure. Courts saying their guilty but there is no physical evidence of what went on and Nissan is saying nope, and they're sticking to it. Either way, I don't really care about those things anyways. Once it runs, drives, gives me good mpg, I'm content.